The RV industry: is now the best time for a new RV?
This week on the StressLess Camping RV Podcast we look at the RV industry and how it is portrayed in an article in the Wall Street Journal. Are things that bad and what can you do if you’re RV shopping? We have some tips for RV shopping - today might be one of the best times in years for RV shoppers.
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The article that spurred this week’s podcast that was originally posted on the Wall Street Journal
RV factory tours:
Our tour of ATC - the Aluminum Trailer Company
Our tour of the Rockwood GeoPro/Flagstaff ePro factory
A Lippert RV chassis factory tour
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Automated transcript of StressLess Camping RV podcast episode 315
Peggy
This week on the Stress is Camping RV Podcast, we take a look at the RV industry and how it's portrayed in an article in the Wall Street Journal.
Tony
Are things that bad and what can you do if you're RV shopping?
Peggy
We have some RV shopping tips and, you know, today might be one of the best
Tony
goofy USA destination where we enjoyed boondocking, exploring
Peggy
And learning a little bit of geology.
Tony
Yeah. And we have a gadget that'll keep your RV experience on the level.
Peggy
Hey, did we mention this is year seven of the Stressless Camping podcast? Happy birthday to us.
Tony
We have this week's podcast along with the notes and all the stories that go with this episode along with discounts, deals, helpful tips, and more at our home on the web at stresslesscamping.com.
Peggy
Don't forget to like and share, and thank you for joining us for episode 315. Welcome to season seven.
Tony
I'm Tony.
Peggy
I'm Peggy.
Tony
And we're two RV industry veterans who travel part time
Peggy
In Iraqwind Mini Lite.
Tony
Looking to share big adventures and help you with great tips Tricks. And discounts.
Peggy
We are just home yesterday from our most recent trip in our Rockwood Mini Lite.
Tony
Yeah.
Peggy
And we are enjoying our time at home. Although we always enjoy our time on the road too. I I can't say that one's better than the other.
Tony
No. No. But definitely very different.
Peggy
For sure.
Tony
We, a few weeks ago, started sharing this history of camping. Yeah. And then we got all busy, and we we stopped sharing.
Peggy
So today stopped doing that. Yeah. So we we said that at that time when we did remember to do it, that we would break it up into segments, and we did a kind of a brief camp brief camping history, a history of, you know, people going camping. And so today, I thought we'd do how about history of the tent?
Tony
Oh, that sounds intense.
Peggy
So the original article we got from Reserve America, and then today, just for kicks, I don't know, I looked up some more information, and I found an a website called allseasonco.com, like all season, and I got a little bit of extra stuff. So if you read the Reserve America article and you hear a couple of things that are a little bit different, it's because I got them from that other website.
Tony
Oh. Well, eons before becoming our favorite pastime, camping was literally a way of life. And perhaps the most important piece of iconic equipment is the tent.
Peggy
According to the article, eighteen fifty five showed the real ancestor to today's familiar shelter. It was designed by a US army officer, and he modeled this bell tent after Native American teepees, but using canvas instead of buffalo hide.
Tony
Now the first boy scout handbook was published in 1911, and that one showed 10 different types of tents.
Peggy
10? That's intense. That's it. Alright. So between the, like, nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties, recreational camping was really gaining popularity.
Peggy
And at that time, you know, what was popular was heavy duty canvas tents. They were durable, they were weather resistant, but they were bulky and kind of difficult to handle.
Tony
I wonder if you were allowed to touch the wall if it was raining.
Peggy
Uh, yeah. Because if any of you ever used those old canvas tents, even not necessarily from the twenties and thirties, but from the seventies and eighties, that stuff got wet and you put it away and it always had that wet smell.
Tony
Things are better now. Yeah. Once World War two was over, there was a huge economic boom in The US, and it sent Americans to camping retailers and war surplus stores where they purchased thousands of tents of all types before heading off to the great outdoors.
Peggy
This is also the time when synthetic fabrics like nylon and polyester was coming into their their own, and those were lighter and more durable and more water resistant. So they were very popular materials for tents.
Tony
Brands like Eureka, Coleman, Bill Moss, and Kelty led the market.
Peggy
Uh, in 1959, longtime tent maker, Eureka, introduced the first fast to set up freestanding tent. Oh, man. Yeah.
Tony
Things are
Peggy
getting easy.
Tony
And in the nineteen sixties, lightweight metal poles began to replace those wooden frames.
Peggy
In nineteen seventies, Eureka stole the show again with a backpack storable tent. It sold a million units in ten years.
Tony
Wow. And in the nineteen eighties, even though this was invented in nineteen fifties, inflatable tents finally caught on. They used air beams instead of poles for easy setup and improved stability.
Peggy
In 1990, the first truck tent appeared and it does it was designed to be pitched in the bed of a pickup truck.
Tony
As of 02/2011, despite technological innovations that offer more glamorous experiences, 3,200,000 Americans still make tent camping trips.
Peggy
Now today, I read that as of 2023, according to Google, that number is now nearly 27,000,000. So that's, like, 10 times as many people are going tent camping, and that represented, they said, about 34% of all Americans who go camping.
Tony
Wow. Can you imagine? I mean, you know, we went to the the Overland Expo
Peggy
and Yeah.
Tony
Talk about tents. There are rooftop tents galore, camp tent. That's there's so many tents.
Peggy
Right.
Tony
I mean, it's the now, like everything, you know, it's not just, oh, it's a tent. It there's so many variations and it's pretty cool.
Peggy
Right. So when you think of tent camping, it's not just that thing that's on the ground. It could also be in the truck bed or on a trailer or Or
Tony
on a roof.
Peggy
On a roof.
Tony
Yeah. Yeah. It's it's pretty cool.
Peggy
Pretty intense.
Tony
We are not gonna make that joke anymore on this episode.
Peggy
No. We're done.
Tony
Unless we
Peggy
do. Something that I've been
Tony
seeing a lot on various social media forums is how long can I run my RV refrigerator on battery power?
Peggy
Yes.
Tony
And
Peggy
There's, of course, a lot of variables to that. It depends on your refrigerator. It depends on your battery. It depends on your battery charging capabilities.
Tony
So if you would like to go off grid camping and you want your refrigerator to run, how do you know how much battery power to buy or how much battery power you need or what type of batteries or any of those things?
Peggy
Well, you could, I don't know, call Scott at ABC Upfitters. That's a
Tony
great idea.
Peggy
He can help you figure that out.
Tony
That's one of the things we really like about ABC Upfitters is that there is not just one solution to all of the off grid camping or even getting your rig set up in your driveway issues. I mean, uh, there's a lot of RV dealers still installing flooded lead acid batteries, which fail after a short period of time, don't give you the performance. They're heavy. They need maintenance. And the folks at ABC Upfitters can help you with a reliable power system that meets your needs, whether that's just, hey, I wanna be able to run my refrigerator
Peggy
While I drive to camp. Yeah.
Tony
Or I wanna be nuts and go boondocking and not even think about my
Peggy
power system. Spend a weekend court site maybe.
Tony
Oh, hey. That's a good idea. Come join us. Anyway, if you would like a tailored system that fits the way you like to camp, you can call our friends at ABC Outfitters at (574) 333-3225.
Peggy
That's (574) 333-3225. I don't know if we left enough room between us today for the QR code, but there it is. And that will take you to our website where we have more information about ABC Upfitters.
Tony
Yeah. They, uh, there's a whole interview and videos and and you can learn more or the easiest way to learn more is to give them a call.
Peggy
I think we have kind of a little bit of a serious topic this week.
Tony
Well, The Wall Street Journal wrote this whole article, and it was called Even Warren Buffett Hasn't Fixed the RV Industry's Serial Breakdowns. And it was shared that the RV industry continues to be plagued by recalls and issues. And it also talks about how RVs are built. So let's start there. But first of all, know that I did reach out to the authors of the article and we had some back and forth about how, you know, what they wrote and all of that.
Tony
The article really made the rounds in Indiana where most of the RVs are built. And some people were like, yeah, pretty hacker. And some people were like, ugh, jeez. Um, so what we wanted to do is really kinda lay the groundwork for what was written in that article. And we would put a link to it.
Tony
Um, we'll put a link to the article. However, do know that it's behind a paywall. So if you're not a Wall Street Journal subscriber
Peggy
You'd have to pay to read the article. Yeah. Let's talk first about how RVs are built because that seems to be I mean, that's you don't have an RV problem unless you have an RV that's been built.
Tony
Right? So what the article said was kinda pointed out how RVs are built. And essentially, many RVs are built by people who are often paid by the piece. So, um, they say like, here's an example. Today, we're gonna build 10 of such and such type of RV.
Tony
And if you take, you know, a long, long time to do that, you'll be here for more hours than if you just do it as quickly as possible. And then once you're done, you leave. So a lot of these RV factories start early in the morning, like 05:00 in the morning. And these people work, work, work. And by what would be lunchtime for us, they're done with the day, with whatever they have to build, they're done.
Tony
And the the good side of that is that it encourages them to be proficient at their work and get it done early. The bad thing is it doesn't really encourage you to take your time and do a good job. Sure. Um, so that's where mistakes can happen. Um, there's also almost no automation in RV, uh, factories.
Tony
They are It is hand built by people. And that's pretty much how these things are put together. Mhmm. If you ever have the chance to tour how cars or cars, trucks, you know, vehicles are built, it is a lot of automation. If you ever have a chance to see how RVs built, there's almost no RVs.
Peggy
Almost no automation.
Tony
It is very much Yeah.
Peggy
Very much hand built.
Tony
Yeah. And we have some RV factory tours on our We'll put links to those in the show notes or on YouTube. Then you have this encouragement to hurry up. Um, some of these companies have a culture where people stay for long periods of time. And that means they get proficient at their craft.
Tony
They do a good job. They are there is a culture at those RV builders of wanting to do better and treat the team well.
Peggy
Well, in those comp in those companies where there's not a lot of turnover, where people stay for a long time, like fifty years at Rockwood working in the cabinet shop, you can go rather quickly because you've done this so many millions of times that you don't have to stop and think about it, right? It's it's first nature, not even second nature, it's first nature. It's just part of what you what your brain and body knows how to do. And so some of the companies, as Toni kind of alluded to, some companies really value their people, and they don't have a lot of turnover. And those people who have been there, the longer that they're there, the better that they can do a quick job without making mistakes.
Peggy
Companies that have, you know, have to train people every week and that slows them down and they don't necessarily train them right because they figure they're gonna leave soon or something, that's where a lot of trouble can come in.
Tony
You know, people might say, oh, yeah. That's typical of Thor or Forest River or Winnipeg or whoever brand. And that's not true. Something I forgot to put in the show notes is each of these brands at Thor and Forest River are encouraged not only to compete with, uh, other brands within the umbrella company, but also with other brands outside the umbrella company.
Peggy
So So someone from Thor competes with someone from Forest River, but someone from Forest River also competes with someone from Forest River. Right. Different companies.
Tony
For example, they're all organized as like these groups. And some of the brands Look at who wins what awards. Right? They are, they are, they do have awards for quality and customer service. And for example, know that, like, let's say, let's take Thor, for example, they make Airstream and they make KZ RV.
Peggy
Mhmm.
Tony
Um, or Zingers, which would you rather have? There is absolutely a difference. Sure. Forest River makes things like the Rockwood and Flagstaff line, which I mean, we make no secret of the fact that we are big fans of how they do things and what they do. And they also make like the Cherokees and the, um, Salem Wildwoods.
Tony
And those are built more to a price and the Rockwoods are built more to component usage in a higher quality. Mhmm. And and there's all kinds of ways you can tell. Let's say you're going RV shopping. Well, first of all, know that we have a whole how to shop for an RV guide on our website at stressescamping.com.
Tony
But you can look at the components and see, for example, start at the chassis. What type of tires are they using? What type of suspension? What type of chassis? What type of slide mechanism?
Tony
Before you even go inside, there are so many details of how these RVs are built. And know that we are more a fan of travel trailers and motorized. And that's where there's a bigger difference, right? You can get some travel trailers still for under $20. Look at the component usage and just how things are put together.
Tony
And it really tells a lot of the story. And some of these, one of the reasons that there's a lot of RVs built in Indiana is there are a lot of places, pockets of Amish workers, and they are not distracted by their phones and TV and all of that. Those people, they work. And, you know, it might be that there's stereotypes like, oh, the Amish workers are, are good and then say, well, that's not really true. No.
Tony
Those those people, they work.
Peggy
They do work. And and what Tony said, you know, they start really early in the morning and when they finish their 10 units or whatever, they're done at that job for the day. But a lot, you know, not just Amish, a lot of people who build RVs all morning have other jobs in the afternoon. Some of them are their own farms, and some of them are just other jobs. So they work in the morning and they get off work and go to work.
Peggy
Right.
Tony
It's it's a long day. Yeah. Because RVs are built quickly, and this was pointed out in the article, um, there can be mistakes. Right? Nothing's perfect.
Peggy
They talked about recalls. Right? And then they talked about the number of recalls. And we wanted to kind of make sure that we're all on the same page about what a recall is. Right?
Peggy
Because a recall can be huge and a recall can be really, really minor.
Tony
But I don't think a recall is necessarily, uh, indicative of something that's poorly made. What a recall is is when an RV company or a vehicle manufacturer, whoever it is, discovers an issue that can affect the vehicle either from safety standpoint or just material, you know, having usability issues or whatever it is, they go through the National Highway Traffic and Safety Administration and they issue a recall. And the idea is that they send the registered owner a letter, but also have that information at the dealers. And when you, for example, when we would bring in an RV at the dealership I worked at, first we'd check the recalls and mitigate all of the issues that might have been tagged in the recall and then save it, uh, and then sell it. You can look up your own, uh, recalls with the model and serial number of your RV, whatever, whether it's drivable, towable, whatever.
Tony
Uh, and we'll put a link in the show notes, which are at stressescamping.com of where you can find that information. But, um, here's like last month, there is a few recalls that kinda stood out to me. One of those, there was a recall on hundreds of fifth wheels because they just didn't provide a system that force that forced owners to disconnect the propane line before putting the griddle in. And again, that's yeah. It's a safety item, but it's, you know, I mean, hopefully, common sense is there.
Tony
Hopefully. There was another recall because the information sticker didn't show the right tire size. And, again, yeah, that's the safety information. But
Peggy
But how many times have people had RVs for years and we they don't even know that sticker exists? Right. Yeah.
Tony
I mean, it's always that they that the goal is to resolve these issues, but I don't think recalls are indicative are necessarily indicative of how well something is made.
Peggy
Right. So Things can happen.
Tony
Yeah. Things
Peggy
can happen. Like, the way there's probably a recall on the and and this is to say that it's not always just how the RV is built. Sometimes there's a recall on a refrigerator Yeah. Or on a stove. Well, Rockwood or Airstream didn't build that refrigerator.
Peggy
They buy those from another company, and so if you're counting numbers of recalls, there's a beaucoup number of of components that go into an RV, and that recall could be on any part of the RV. It's gonna show up as an RV recall.
Tony
Yep. In other words, um, be aware, know what you're looking at, and don't let an article dissuade you from RVing. I mean, for example, the the RV that we have now, we bought in November. Mhmm. We've put over 12,000 miles on it, and it's just been bulletproof.
Tony
I mean, other than the stupid stuff that I've done, it's been great. So, uh, the fallacy of, oh, don't buy anything built after COVID or blah, blah, blah. No, just shop carefully, uh, align yourself with a really great locally owned dealership. I think that makes a huge difference in your experience.
Peggy
Yes. And
Tony
check out our reviews and our tips on how to shop. There are very good RVs out there, and there are some that are built to price. And so Sure. Uh, and and it's not just, oh, don't buy Forest River, don't buy Thor, don't buy Winnebago. Know that those companies do encourage your brands to build according to what customer demand is.
Peggy
So Right. And so some of those, you know, built to price, if someone is just going to go camping seven weekends out of each summer Oh, or even 40 miles from home, 15 miles from home, whatever, it's it's a little less important, some of those things, right? Like, I don't know what, the the sticker, the tire size or something. Think about the scale of some of these RVs or this, I mean, some of the recalls and the scale of the use of some of the RVs. If you're planning to full time, now I'm not recommending this because, uh, a lot of RV companies, a lot of insurance companies are gonna have very strict demands on you and full timing, but if you're gonna spend a heck of a lot of time and make a lot of miles like we do, that's a whole different set of needs from someone who's just gonna take the kids camping three or four times each summer.
Tony
Yeah. Which is a lot of people, so do know that it's not all doom and gloom. I I think the article from Wall Street Journal was fair, but of course, some people didn't like it. The guys that wrote it seem to have done a lot of research and such. But, yeah, you can still buy a very good RV, even one built after COVID.
Tony
Believe it or not. It's true. We're here to tell you. So we in the beginning said this might be a great time to buy RVs. And it really is because RV sales have dropped significantly, and that means that RV dealers are very motivated to sell the inventory that they have.
Tony
And as we record this, the twenty twenty sixes are being introduced.
Peggy
Yeah. I thought that didn't happen until, like, September, but I've already started seeing floor plans and the new stickers on the outside and things like that for 2026, and I've seen those for several weeks already.
Tony
Yeah. So if if you're thinking, mom, maybe I should go RV shopping, do it. Uh, it's such a good time to to buy. I mean, I know the the dealership that I worked for, some of the RVs they had on the lot, they literally sold for cost. So what the cost the dealership to to buy.
Tony
And there are some smoking deals happening now. So, yeah, go go check them out, find a great local dealer, and and see what you see.
Peggy
Yeah. So John, at my dentist office, if your parents are gonna go shopping, this really is the time.
Tony
Yeah. And buying an RV is not like pulling teeth. Oh, boy.
Peggy
So we have just gone on about a five week trip, and Tony Tony has wanted, and I have resisted, and I'll explain why I resisted it as we talk about it. But we got a gadget right before we left just in time to leave, and we finally have now a Levelmate Pro.
Tony
I flipping love it. I love it. I love it. I love everything about it. I I would marry it, but I'm already married.
Tony
It's that good. Well, okay. Maybe not. But so what it is, Levelmate Pro is a little box that you put in your RV, and then on your smartphone, you get a display. And what what you do is you pick a level spot.
Peggy
It did take us a few stops before we actually knew we were totally totally level. You know, we can we can sleep through a night where we're not exactly level. We have a 12 volt refrigerator, so it doesn't have that super level requirement. So if we're just staying one night somewhere and we're a few degrees off, we don't worry too much about it, but we didn't wanna set up a level made for Yeah. When we weren't level.
Peggy
So it took us a few days Yeah. To get us to get to a place where we were level enough that you were good installing it.
Tony
So you then tell this gadget on your phone, on your smartphone, the length and width of your RV and, and, you know, other details about it. And then when you are backing into a site, uh, for example, you open up the app on your phone and you can see when your RV is level. And for a travel trailer or fifth wheel, uh, what's really important is side to side. Right? Because you can level front to back with the tongue jack Mhmm.
Tony
Or with the landing gear on the fifth wheel. But a number of times I would back into a site and it's like, oh, you and it'll tell you, oh, you're an inch and a half low on this side or whatever it happens to be. Uh, you back into a site, but if you move over like two inches, it's level side to
Peggy
side. Yeah.
Tony
And just from inside the truck, uh, you can see how level you are and it's very quick and it really it works so well. I cannot recommend this gadget more highly. I I I absolutely love it. This is one of my favorite new gadgets that we've gotten.
Peggy
We really have been very impressed with it. Now I will explain to you why I hesitated for as long as I did. I I saw people, you know, in the social media saying that you have to go inside and turn it on. Of course, you know, there needs to be a transmission, right? So that makes sense.
Peggy
That that little box inside the camper needs to be transmitting to your phone.
Tony
Correct.
Peggy
And I did not want the hassle of getting to a campsite, getting out of the truck, opening the door, putting the steps down, turning on the LevelMate, putting the steps up, closing the door. Uh, it just seemed like not nearly worth the effort when I had a phone with a level in it right there in my pocket.
Tony
Yeah. By the way, did you know if you have an iPhone, uh, it has a level built right into it?
Peggy
Right. And so that's what we had been using, and that's fine. But Tony installed this Levelmate Pro in the cabinet where our battery and stuff is, so I do have to get out of the truck and I have to open a door, but it's a cabinet door, and flip the button on that transmitter, and that's all. I don't have to go in the camper. And really, that was what caused my hesitation all that time, is thinking what a hassle it was to get in the camper to turn it on.
Peggy
Now the other thing is, it's battery operated, and I think that there's a way to plug it in 12 volt.
Tony
That I don't know.
Peggy
But it is battery operated, and so I guess, in theory, we could have just turned it on when we were packing and leaving for a trip, and then it would be on when we were getting ready to park. We just have to probably change the batteries more often, but frankly
Tony
And they're standard batteries, which is something I like. You know, I don't like proprietary or weird batteries.
Peggy
I keep forgetting to turn it off when we get settled, so it's been on more than it should be anyway. And we haven't had a change of batteries yet.
Tony
So But another I mean, let's be honest. It's always good when when there's two of you and one of you is out looking for what you're not gonna hit when you're backing up anyway. So you kinda have to have one person get out as it is and put wheel chocks and all that stuff. So I I am just this is a gadget that it's not a necessary one. Right?
Tony
Because you can use the level in your phone or you could get a level or whatever, but I just really like it. So that's just me.
Peggy
Alright. What's goofy USA?
Tony
We camped in the Southern California Desert among about a 100 big metal statues. It's really an unusual, uh, place in the Anza Borrego Desert. Now, I will tell you that this was a few years ago, and there was more public access to these statues. So what happened? Let's explain.
Tony
In the Anza Borrego Desert, there are about a 100 metal sculptures created by a gent called Ricardo Braceda. And these sculptures are incredible and they're all over the desert. And the reason that
Peggy
Well, they're all over the Anza Borrego area of the desert. They're not in the entire desert.
Tony
Right. Exactly. Now, you have a little bit more restricted access to these things you can't. I believe you cannot drive near them like we did, but they're still out there and they're still absolutely worth seeing. And the history of this is really unusual.
Tony
Ricardo Rosetta's daughter encouraged him to make her a little dinosaur.
Peggy
A dinosaur. Yeah. Yeah. She wanted a dinosaur sculpture for a Christmas present. Now, Briseido was, at that time or very recently before that, a cowboy boot salesman.
Peggy
Yeah. And he didn't know how to sculpt or or work with metal or weld or anything, but his daughter asked for it and he wanted to make his daughter happy, so he learned how.
Tony
Yeah. Ultimately, what happened is he got really good at this Yeah. Metal crafting thing and ran across a guy whose last name is Avery. And if you have heard of Avery products, paper products or things like that, well, yeah.
Peggy
That Avery. Yeah.
Tony
So this guy commissioned him to put over a 100 of these statues all over the Anza Borrego Desert, and they're not just like yard art. Some of these things are way bigger than our travel trailer. Some of them are small. Some of them are very whimsical. Some of them are, uh, pretty accurate depictions of dinosaurs and turtles and
Peggy
A jeep. A jeep.
Tony
It's just it's really an impressive thing and it's just trippy that they're out there in the desert. And so the way to see them is to go to the Anza Borrego Visitor Center and ask for kind of details of how to see them and where they are, and and that's the way to see them. And it's I don't know. I just think it's funny that there's well over a 100 of these big metal statues just randomly out in the desert.
Peggy
Now, there's also other things to see in Anza Borrego, um, that's a state park. There's there is a state park, not the whole thing is not a state park. Um, keep speaking in way too general of terms. Uh, we did not go we did not camp in the state park. We just camped at on BLM, Bureau of Land Management land, and so we boondocked.
Peggy
We met up with our friend, Denny. We also met up with our friend, Steve and Sandy. Yep. And so that was fun because they kind of gave us little tours. And I also, you know, on rare occasions, I managed to get around to my one of my pages on our website is a geology page, and I did write a brief history of the Anza Borrego area.
Peggy
So you can see that also on our website, uh, you know, other other reasons to go. There's sculpture, there's geology, there's an amazing night sky.
Tony
Oh, yeah. Awesome. It's just a
Peggy
great place. There's a lot of open land, Bureau of Land Management where you can boondock. There are campgrounds. So it's a great place to check out, and a fun reason is the Berseda sculptures. And those are goofy USA.
Tony
That's what we have for you on the start of year seven of the Stressless Camping podcast. And if you have questions about RVs or RV quality or just wanna show pictures of your campsite or whatever it happens to be, we do have our fun and friendly Stressless Campers Facebook group. And
Peggy
We love when you post there. We love when you ask and answer each other's questions. Go check it out. As Tony said, fun and friendly. We keep it that way for sure.
Peggy
Stressless campers Facebook group.
Tony
Yep. Of course, we also do a once a week newsletter, which is absolutely free with links to the stories, videos, and podcasts that will help you get the most out of your stressless camping experience.
Peggy
Just visit our website and sign up on any page at the bottom or the pop up or within the middle of an article or wherever. We wanna make sure you don't miss it.
Tony
Yeah.
Peggy
Uh, but we will not be sharing that with anyone. We will not be giving that those those lists away. We just use it so that once a week, we can send you an email, and that's it.
Tony
Yeah. And you will find the show notes and details, uh, for this episode, episode three fifteen on the podcast page at stresslesscamping.com, and we have a uh, page for every episode, so that's kind of cool.
Peggy
We also have a page with our favorite RV products and services where you can find the things that we talk about often and the things that we really enjoy using, and some of those things even have a discount. So check out the RV products and services page.
Tony
Of course, we are in all the social places, but you can start at stresslesscamping.com, and from there, jump off to all the places that we're all wasting time together.
Peggy
If you're listening by audio, don't forget that you don't wanna miss a future episode. So if you subscribe to the Stressless Camping podcast, which is free on any podcast app, You'll be able to hear every episode without fail.
Tony
Doggies and, of course, for our friends on YouTube, uh, don't forget to like and comment and and share. It all really does help.
Peggy
Of course, if you're listening, you can review. If you're watching, you can comment or like or share, all those things. And if you are on the website and you see something that you like that you think that your friends, family, uh, fellow campers, enemies, grocery store companions, anybody would like, just go ahead and copy that link and send it by email or write it down on your arm and let someone take a picture of it or share it on Facebook. However you want to share, we don't judge.
Tony
No. But we sure appreciate. Well, with that, here we go on season seven of the Restless Camping podcast. We really appreciate your being with us for all these years. Uh, there have been a whole bunch of you who download the audio episodes especially, and a few of you are finding us on YouTube too.
Tony
But wherever you find us, we appreciate you very, very much. And with that, we hope you get to do some stressless camping.
Mark Ferrell
We hope you learned a lot and had some fun and got some tips for your next stress less camping adventure. We're honored by your reviews on Apple Podcasts, which helps others find us too. Don't forget to subscribe so you won't miss out on the adventure, and we look forward to your joining us next week. Until then, happy camping.
