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Planning RV Adventures with Friends - RV podcast 370

Planning RV Adventures with Friends - RV podcast 370

Planning RV Adventures with Friends - RV podcast 370

This week on the StressLess Camping RV Podcast, we share our tips on planning trips with friends. Whether a rally, a road trip, or a rowdy night away, we love to camp and travel with others. How do we make it happen? Join us and we’ll share our tips.

Tony updated our security and convenience with our RV gadget of the week, and he brings us another honest RV review.

Oh, and remember when we asked you to call in with a tip you’ve learned from us, or a favorite StressLess Camping memory? We share one of those calls today.

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Kuru Footwear’s article on hiking injuries https://www.kurufootwear.com/blogs/articles/hiking-injury-statistics

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We’ll have a gathering after the 2027 Quartzsite Sports, Vacation, and RV Show. Plan to spend a week boondocking, potlucking, and whatever else we get up to.

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Automated transcript of StressLess Camping RV podcast episode 370

Tony

This week on the Stressless Camping RV podcast, we share our tips, Peggy's tips- ... on planning trips with friends.

Peggy

Whether we're going to a rally, on a road trip, or just a rowdy night away, we love to camp and travel with our friends. How do we make it happen?

Tony

Well, we have those tips this week on the Stressless Camping podcast.

Peggy

You also updated our security and our convenience with this week's RV Gadget of the Week.

Tony

And coming back from my trip to Indiana a few weeks ago, I have one of the RVs that I saw there, new for 2027, and it is ooh, la la. We have this week's podcast, along with the stories, notes, and everything to go with this episode, plus discounts, deals, helpful tips, and more at our home on the web at stresslesscamping.com.

Peggy

We really appreciate your likes and your shares. Thank you so much for joining us again for podcast episode 370.

Tony

Stressless Camping.

Peggy

Stressless Camping.

Tony

I'm Tony.

Peggy

And I'm Peggy.

Tony

And we're two RV industry veterans who travel part-time...

Peggy

In a Rockwood Mini Lite

Tony

... looking to share big adventures and help you with great tips...

Peggy

Tricks

Tony

... and discounts, and we're about to set sail for adventure.

Peggy

We are. We're going on a few of the kinds of trips that we'll talk about today.

Tony

Yeah. Well, that's what prompted this episode, the idea, so.

Peggy

What we don't really plan to do, but it's not completely out of the question, is perhaps go hiking.

Tony

Well, not extensively.

Peggy

Not extensively.

Tony

Although people are taking me-

Peggy

Ah

Tony

... although people are telling me to take a hike- ... all the time, babe, I can't even say it.

Peggy

So this week, we, well, we are getting some e- some new emails based on a conference that we didn't get to attend. But, uh, we got, from Kuru Footwear, we got an article about, uh, hiking and hiking injuries, and it was pretty interesting. We'll just tell you the highlights, and we'll put the link to the actual article here. Even though we don't, you know, obviously, we don't really hike, like-

Tony

Not extensively

Peggy

... like extensively or o- on hills or anything, but, uh, there are still some really good tips, even if you're just gonna take a walk around the campground.

Tony

Yeah, it's not just thrill-seekers getting hurt. Uh, surprisingly, slips and falls are very common, and part of that is because of unbalanced, as opposed to imbalanced- ... backpacks.

Peggy

Yeah, not just imbalanced people, but unbalanced backpacks. 42% of injuries that are reported involve the ankles.

Tony

Ooh, man. And apparently, national parks are dangerous. Well, not really. It's probably because that's where people go to hike, right?

Peggy

I'm sure that's because people go there to hike, and that's why so many of the injuries, such a high percentage of the injuries are from there. They did have some really, really great tips, though, and they recommended carrying a map and a compass, taking first aid kit with you, and having water, which is kind of funny, 'cause if you can see the background right now, the people in that picture aren't carrying water, and that was in their article, so. And you should always, and this is true whether you're hiking, walking, biking, driving, camping, boondocking, uh, whatever you're doing, you should always share your plans with somebody.

Tony

And check the weather.

Peggy

Yeah, check the weather, because you don't wanna get trapped in a bad, bad weather situation. And of course, considering the source where the article came from, invest in some good footwear, which is kind of where they lost me, because, you know, if it can't be done in flip-flops, I don't usually wanna do it.

Tony

Well, but, but you do have good hiking shoes.

Peggy

I do. I have good hiking shoes, good boots, uh, and I do put them on every once in a great while. And then everybody looks at my feet like they don't recognize me.

Tony

Shoes. Well, we're hitting the road, right as s- we're, what is that song? Ah, who cares.

Peggy

Okay.

Tony

We're hitting the road. We are on our way to Indiana.

Peggy

That's right. We're gonna do a few of the different activities that we're gonna talk about today, but the first, you know, activity, the first rally, is the FROG Rally. Uh, we have mentioned it before that we'll be there. We are kind of firming up some plans for a Tuesday evening gathering, so if you are attending the FROG Rally, we'll also put some information in the newsletter and-

Tony

Oh, yeah

Peggy

... and probably on our Stressless Campers Facebook group. But if you are attending the FROG Rally, come, if, even if you don't hear any other word about this, come find us, probably in or very near the Tiki Lounge-

Tony

Yeah

Peggy

... on Tuesday evening, which is food truck night.

Tony

Yeah, as Peggy said, we'll share the information, but, uh, we are partnering with a few other people, and we're gonna give away some stuff, and just hang out and hopefully have, be able to answer some questions and, and all of that good stuff. So if you're at the FROG Rally, uh, and we'll put notes of what in the wide, wide world of sports is the FROG Rally- ... and when is it. It is the middle of August, i, in Elkhart at the Elkhart County 4H Fairgrounds.

Peggy

Well, officially Goshen.

Tony

Goshen, you're right.

Peggy

Yeah. But it is the Elkhart County Fairgrounds, and it is for owners of Forest River RVs.

Tony

Yeah.

Peggy

Forest River Owners Group is what FROG is.

Tony

You still have a month to go buy yourself a new RV-

Peggy

That's right

Tony

... if you don't have one.

Peggy

That's right. And of course, as we pack for our upcoming trip, we're in and out of the Mini Lite 100 times a day.

Tony

With the air conditioner running on battery.

Peggy

With the air conditioner running and the refrigerators on so that we can Tony couldn't believe that I finally did this. He always asks for this, but I actually planned our menus for the whole week so that I would know what food that's in the freezer we're gonna use, and what we're not gonna use that can be moved to the camper now, so I'm not doing it on the morning of the first day.

Tony

Of course, I could plan this too, right? I mean, I just... I, I'm the one who gets such joy out of it, but then I expect, "Now, Peggy, can you do it?" So...

Peggy

Anyway, this refrigerator, freezer, and air conditioner are possible because of our upfit from ABC Upfitters.

Tony

And, you know, I just wrote an article for RV Trader about boondocking tips, and one of those is to have a power system that matches what you wanna do when you are off-grid camping. So that could be anything from a pretty simple power upgrade or an elaborate system like we have. How do you know? The people at ABC Upfitters are happy to work with you to help you figure that out, design a custom system that's upgradeable and just works with your system, is a professionally installed solar and lithium system.

Tony

And you can talk to them at 574-333-3225.

Peggy

That's 574-333-3225. I wrote it in our notes this time because last time after we finished recording, Tony said, "Did I get the number right?" And yes, he did, but for, you know, sometimes you just think, "Ah, I..."

Tony

CRS is hitting us hard.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

Can't remember stuff, you know.

Peggy

All right.

Tony

Well, anyway.

Peggy

So we are planning a trip. We're planning a trip w- we're, well, we're supposed to be caravaning, but things aren't working out exactly right, but I'm gonna pretend like they are- ... because that's how I wrote the notes.

Tony

Well, what, that's what prompted this whole, this whole thing, right?

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

Is we, I watched Peggy and Patrick sitting at the dining table in our house and plan this whole trip to Indiana. Something came up with, with Patrick and Brian, but, uh, they'll, they'll still meet us there and, and-

Peggy

Yeah

Tony

... if you're at the Frog Rally, we'll get to hang out with them.

Peggy

Well, anyway, that's-

Tony

Yeah

Peggy

... that's farther-

Tony

That's neither here nor there

Peggy

... down in my notes.

Tony

Yeah, sorry.

Peggy

But let's try to stick with the script here, uh, 'cause otherwise we'll forget things for sure.

Tony

Me?

Peggy

Okay, so what, what kind of trips would you plan with friends? So one of the kinds of things that we do is go to rallies and FRVA conventions. So we're not necessarily traveling with friends, but we're going to meet up with friends to go to these events.

Tony

Yeah, and the fun part of that is it's mostly planned. We just gotta get there.

Peggy

Right.

Tony

And of course, one of the big get-togethers that we go to every year is the Quartzsite Sports, Vacation and RV Show.

Peggy

And then we follow it up with our own gathering-

Tony

We have our own-

Peggy

... gathering

Tony

... little get-together

Peggy

... afterwards, right.

Tony

Yep, which is always fun, and it seems to be growing, so.

Peggy

Yeah. And, uh, if you've attended one, you know that the extent of my planning an actual event is, "Hey, we're gonna have an event." Don't ask me what time. Don't ask me what to bring. Don't ask me what to wear. Just, you know, I don't know. I'll figure it out as we go.

Tony

Yeah, that's a pretty casual rally. But if you have people that you hang out with and you have common interests like, let's say, oh, our friend Alan, who does those historical reenactments-

Peggy

Mm-hmm

Tony

... or people who have similar brands of RVs or similar configurations or worked at the same company or veterans or what- whatever.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

You could always get with them and just go to a campground or to a place and, and celebrate that hobby or special interest.

Peggy

Yeah. So a lot of RV companies actually have rallies where they organize things and invite everyone who owns that kind of an RV. But also, like in our world, in the world of Rockwood Mini Lites, we have a few different people who organize annual things. We've got, there's a Great Lakes rally. There's a Texas rally. Um-

Tony

We've been to both of those

Peggy

... and there's one in Kentucky, I think it is, 'cause it's around the horse race thingy.

Tony

And when I was in Indiana, there was a, a GeoPro ePro rally, and there were like 75 people there. It was big.

Peggy

So you can attend these rallies. You can organize these rallies. And if you're the kind of person who loves to, like, host events and plan all the events and everything, that's super fun. I love to just attend them and not have to-

Tony

I spent-

Peggy

... to plan them

Tony

... so long in the event planning business in my, my first life, as it were.

Peggy

So another kind of reason for planning a trip together is to do like a road trip. For example, we did our western part of Route 66 from California to Albuquerque in February, and we're planning, quote unquote, our eastern part from Chicago to Albuquerque in October, and that's as much as we know so far.

Tony

Yeah. Although we will keep you updated 'cause-

Peggy

Yeah, absolutely

Tony

... if you'd like to join us for all of that or a segment of it, you're more than welcome to, to come join us. There's not gonna be... It'll, it'll be very typical of us. It will be semi-planned.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

But it will be planned, so-

Peggy

Yeah

Tony

... we'll know, oh, we're gonna be in, you know, Springfield at this time.

Peggy

We should know one or two stops ahead of time.

Tony

Yeah, yeah. And you know, we have our online calendar of where we're going to be.

Peggy

Yes.

Tony

So if you're in, in the, getting our free newsletter once a week, uh, we put links to that when we're going places.

Peggy

We don't get to, I think it's really fun, we don't get to go on kind of road trips very often with other people. The Route 66 thing we have done, and we had Bill and Kate join us in-

Tony

Mm-hmm

Peggy

... in February, and we'll have Kate and some other people join us in October.

Tony

That we know of so far.

Peggy

Yeah. But we- Again, I'm pretending this is still happening. We are going on a road trip with Brian and Patrick, uh, to get to Albuquerque. No, not to get-

Tony

No

Peggy

... not to get to Albuquerque.

Tony

To get from Albuquerque.

Peggy

From Albuquerque to Elkhart for the Frog Rally. They aren't going to the Frog Rally, but they needed to go to Indiana, and so we, uh, are gonna plan... You know, we have a few time, a few stops where we're stopping for a few days so that we can do some sightseeing and stuff. Unfortunately, when Tony and I go somewhere, we tend to have to wait till the last second to leave, and then we have to drive, drive, drive, drive, drive to get where we're going. Now, the end result is always in a great place. We're going to a rally. We're going to RV Basic Training Camp.

Peggy

We're going to whatever. But for us, the, the road trip itself isn't usually that much fun.

Tony

It depends.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

It, there are some times, but you're right.

Peggy

It, yeah, it's better when we can take our time, and we were able to plan this with Brian and Patrick so that we had 10 days to get there instead of the normal four and a half. So we, you know, we were gonna be able to take some extra stops, and we're still doing that. A couple... I don't, I think I'm out of order here, but last spring or the spring before, we had an opportunity to, we needed to get from the Dallas area to Elkhart, and we had, like, two weeks to do it.

Tony

That was the best.

Peggy

And we didn't plan any days.

Tony

W-

Peggy

We just got in the truck and headed east or north or northeast and said, at, around lunchtime, "Well, how much longer do we wanna drive? Where do we... W- you know, where should we look for somewhere to stop?" And that was fantastic. "Oh, I really like it here. Let's stay another day." That kind of travel is really wonderful, and-

Tony

Yeah, that's my f- that's my favorite.

Peggy

That's our favorite, but we don't always have the kind of time to do it. So, you know, when you can travel without planning is a lot of fun. When you can travel with friends, it's also a lot of fun.

Tony

Yeah. I mean, we also like just one night away, right?

Peggy

Mm-hmm.

Tony

Like, we went to the Sierra Blanca Brewery with, uh, Robin and Gary in Moriarty, New Mexico, or the Junkyard Brewery for my birthday and our wedding anniversary in Grants, New Mexico, and then we had Robin and Gary and Brian and Patrick with us.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

That was fun, and then we did the Friendsgiving-

Peggy

Yeah

Tony

... at the Wines of the San Juan here in New Mexico.

Peggy

So here is, uh, not an intentional ad, but here's kind of a plug for Harvest Host.

Tony

Yeah.

Peggy

All three of these locations are Harvest Host locations where you can easily stay for one night. These are all things that we can travel to in a day. We actually stayed at Wines of the San Juan for a couple nights, but it's so terrific to just make a reservation, drive for a couple of hours, s- you know, hang out with our friends, have some beers, have some pizza, have some whatever, have some Thanksgiving dinner, and then-

Tony

Well, at the Wines of the San Juan, we drank wine

Peggy

... yeah, we drank wine.

Tony

But-

Peggy

And-

Tony

... something about those... You, I know where you were going. Uh, Harvest Hosts, those were all Harvest Hosts, and the thing I really like about Harvest Host locations is it's not just a, a place to stay overnight. They're usually experiential, like the Junkyard Brewery. It's a junkyard and a brewery.

Peggy

Right.

Tony

What more could you ask for?

Peggy

Right. So some people say, "Oh, I'm not gonna just drive to get to a Harvest Host, because then what am I gonna do?" Well, you're gonna do what you do at the Harvest Host.

Tony

Yeah.

Peggy

That's gonna be the point of going there, and we stay at a lot of Harvest Hosts on our way, you know, between destinations. But it's kinda fun to just have a Harvest Host as a destination. Go hang out for one or two nights, hang out with your friends, and then-

Tony

Yeah

Peggy

... have an easy drive home, and you had a little vacation.

Tony

Yeah, whatever the experience is that you enjoy. I mean, there's museums, and there's a lot of different stuff that they do that Harvest Hosts... I mean, there's those drive-in movie theaters. I'm dying to try that.

Peggy

Oh, yes. That has gotta be on our Route 66 trip.

Tony

Yeah, so wouldn't that be fun with a few other friends and such and their RVs? It would be, that'd be cool.

Peggy

Yeah. All right, so do we have to plan? That's what we kind of already talked about. Like, it's super fun if you can say, "We have a week to get 600 miles. Let's just go 100 miles and see what we see."

Tony

Yeah.

Peggy

That is super cool kind of travel, and I hope that we can plan better in the future, you know, schedule our dentist appointments for the right day so, so we're not, like, leaving immediately afterward.

Tony

Oh, my gosh, yeah, that was-

Peggy

And then, you know, doing a good kind of mixture of, of getting to a destination but not having, like, these marathon days to get there.

Tony

I liked the, the, the way we did Route 66 with Bill and Kate-

Peggy

Mm-hmm

Tony

... and how we'll probably do it coming back. It was a mixture of, "Okay, these days we need to do actual sit and stare at the computer work-"

Peggy

Yeah

Tony

... "nonsense. We're gonna be in this area, but what's around?" And then there's like, "Oh my gosh, we have to see the biggest ball of twine in Minnesota," or whatever- ... it happens to be. That's good, too. Like, when we went to Pink's Hot Dogs, that was s- totally serendipitous.

Peggy

Yeah. We were just driving to look at some other Route 66 thing down the list.

Tony

It was, we were looking for the, the Chicken Man.

Peggy

Yeah, that's right, and we're like, "Hey, there's Pink's. Let's have a hotdog."

Tony

Yeah. Chicken Man. It's a muffler man-

Peggy

Yeah

Tony

... up on the roof but with a chicken head.

Peggy

So here are some tips, then, for planning road trips with friends, and one of them -- my biggest-

Tony

That's the whole point of this

Peggy

... my biggest tip is have friends who like to do research. I love to go on trips. I love to say, "Let's have a party," but I'm not so great at actually planning said party. So for example, the Route 66 trip Bill spent I don't know how much time, and he made this beautiful spreadsheet that should be scrolling behind us right now Uh, of all of the attractions, by state-

Tony

Bill is a master planner

Peggy

... by state. He loves to do that research. He has the time to do that research, and he, like, if you can see it on the spreadsheet, he has the name of the location and the address and the contact information and why we wanna go there, and it's in order from, you know, as we were traveling west. Now, we'll have to read it upside down, I guess, this time, but- ... but it's super great, and then, you know, as we're planning tomorrow's road trip, we can say, "Okay, let's stop at this place for lunch, and let's camp here, and let's spend three days there so we can go see that and see that and see that during the day and not have to drag the travel trailers through-

Tony

Mm-hmm

Peggy

... busy cities and stuff like that." So a big tip is to kinda, if you're doing something epic like that, like Route 66, you know, plan ahead, get the books and the guides and the, you know, and spend some time just getting an idea of-

Tony

Yeah

Peggy

... of how long you wanna spend and what you wanna see.

Tony

And a great way, a great way to share all of that is the way Bill did it with the spreadsheet-

Peggy

Mm-hmm

Tony

... where he had it segmented out by location and day and such, and now with things like Google Docs and, and all of that, all of those spreadsheets are very easily shareable, so you could, like, I could say, "Oh, we're gonna be in Floobity Bloh town." "Well, did you see the Floobity Bloh Muffler Man," or whatever, and add to that, and it allows you to be collaborative with other people and make, make a great plan, and then everyone knows, "Oh, today we're gonna go 132 miles to see the Flibity Bloh Man," or whatever.

Tony

So that really, the spreadsheet idea, especially, again, as shareable as they are nowadays with things like Google Docs, and, uh, and if your, all your friends are on Apple, then iCloud, or I'm sure there must be something for Windows like that, too. But anyway, the spreadsheet idea is really good.

Peggy

Yeah. Another thing that you can do is, um, share, if you are a user of RV Trip Wizard like I am, you can share your trip with other... Well, you can share it with anybody, really. If you share it with another user, they can actually see a lot more detail, because they can log in and see your trip. If you share it with someone who doesn't use it, they see, I don't know, more of a, kind of a screenshot, I guess.

Tony

Mm.

Peggy

But at least they can see what you have in mind. What unfortunately we haven't been able to figure out is how to actually do some kind of a collaboration through Trip Wizard. Are you listening?

Tony

Yeah. Hey.

Peggy

We would love to have a collaboration option so that when, 'cause Kait and I are working together a lot on the upcoming part of Route 66, and one of us has to have kind of the master map, you know, and then y- the other person can't just make changes to that map.

Tony

Hmm. That would be, I don't know how popular a feature that would be, but boy, we would like that.

Peggy

Yeah, we would like it. But we're doing, kind of using Bill's spreadsheets to do that, and then we kind of each have our own Trip Wizard that we're working on.

Tony

Yeah. But still, that would be kinda cool to have a collaborative component to Trip Wizard.

Peggy

Yeah. It's good if you are, you know, we're, Kait's in Maine and we're in Albuquerque, and we're planning a trip together, so having these shareable spreadsheets and these, you know, collaborative kinda maps and stuff is really helpful for when you're not together. But also, this trip that we planned with Brian and Patrick, we kept trying to text and, or maybe call, and we're like, "This isn't working." So we said, "Come over for lunch." And Tony and Brian made lunch, and Patrick and Peggy sat at the kitchen table and said, "Okay, where are we going on night one?"

Tony

Yeah.

Peggy

"How long are we gonna stay there? How far are we gonna drive? Oh, this is where we're gonna stay? Let's just make a reservation." And we don't always like to make reservations ahead of time, but this time-

Tony

Yeah, we were

Peggy

... because we were traveling together and it's summertime and, and we're going to some popular places.

Tony

Popular.

Peggy

Popular. So we went ahead and made all of our reservations for the whole trip, so we know how long we're staying everywhere and, you know, what we're gonna, where we're gonna be.

Tony

Yeah, ideas of what we're gonna see-

Peggy

Yeah

Tony

... and all.

Peggy

And so that was fun, just kinda sitting there and, and scrolling down. "Okay, what's next? What's next?" And then I, I'd be looking for something, and he'd be looking for a campground, and he'd say, "Okay, let's book this campground. Okay, let's book sites 31 and 32 together."

Tony

Brian and I sat in the living room and made snide comments.

Peggy

And had a beer and-

Tony

Oh, yeah, we did

Peggy

... and made lunch.

Tony

Yeah, that's true.

Peggy

Having the opportunity to not plan is fantastic, but planning, espec- you know, and I like doing the planning if we're doing a trip just by ourselves. I enjoy-

Tony

Peggy's really good at it

Peggy

... I enjoy, like, you know, how many routes can there be from Albuquerque to Elkhart?

Tony

A lot.

Peggy

A lot.

Tony

A lot.

Peggy

I try to do something a little different every time.

Tony

We've done several.

Peggy

Even if we start out on the same route, then I kinda spin us over this way or spin us up that way, just to do something a little bit different. So it was fun to just sit with Patrick and say, "Well, what should we do? Well, should we go this way? Should we go that way?"

Tony

And if you have any great ways that you like to collaborate with other folks on adventures or getaways or whatnot, that's one of the beauties of our Fun and Friendly Stressless Campers Facebook group.

Peggy

That's the question of the week.

Tony

Oh, well- ... you'll just have to wait till I stop giving away the future here.

Peggy

All right, so do you wanna work with us or me and plan a trip together? We would love to do that. We would love to either have a road trip or if you are interested in having an RV basic training camp-

Tony

Yeah

Peggy

... gathering, that would be super cool, and if you could help me with getting that together, that would be awesome. We would love it. So-

Tony

That's awesome

Peggy

... my email is, should be showing up on the screen right now. It's peggy@stresslesscamping.com. If you are interested in putting together a basic training camp.

Tony

You basically get together, uh, with your RV and learn all of the systems. You know, we, we go over all the systems, so it's a good way to refamiliarize or familiarize if you have a new RV.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

We, we've had people even take that RV basic training who don't have an RV yet-

Peggy

Mm-hmm

Tony

... so that they're more informed. We had a lady who took it twice.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

Once before she bought her RV, once after.

Peggy

That's right, yeah. Why don't you and I work together? You can gather your friends, and we'll give you all some RV tips for stressless camping.

Tony

Ooh, I like it. We are about to hook our trailer to our truck to go to Indiana, and we're doing that with our Waysafe Hitch, which we have really enjoyed just the way that thing works. It is very well made. I always say know what your tongue weight is, and this has a built-in scale. So you can actually adjust the hitch very easily to accommodate, like, oh, now we're traveling with water. Now we're traveling with no water. Now we have bikes on the back or no bikes on, or whatever it is, so that your tow vehicle and your trailer, the idea is that the front wheels, which are the steer wheels, obviously, remain as much in contact with the road as they are without the trailer.

Tony

So that's kinda the point of a weight distribution hitch, along with accommodating the weight so you don't have this, this V. You have 'em running equally, and that just helps with wear and tear, safety, all of that. And so the Waysafe Hitch really makes it easy for us to know what's going on with the hitch and the trailer and the truck, and it's just a, a, it's a quality product.

Peggy

So we have a link to Waysafe, where you can shop for your own Waysafe-

Tony

Yeah

Peggy

... Hitch and travel safely.

Tony

Yeah.

Peggy

Remember a couple weeks ago, we said, "Hey, we have a phone number that you can call and leave us a voicemail." It's just fun to hear people tell stories about what they learned from Stressless Camping, what they learned from the podcast, you know, that time that you met us or a favorite memory or, you know, whatever, something.

Tony

Mm-hmm.

Peggy

Something that you wanna hear your voice instead of listening to ours for up to a minute or whatever. We have been getting in some calls. So here's one now.

Speaker 3

We joined the fan group, uh, Facebook, six years ago when we bought our Mini-Lite, and guess who runs the page? Yep, you guessed it. Stressless Camping. Peggy and Tony were going to be at a rally that we were attending, and this is where we met our new lifelong friends. Since that rally, we have met up at breweries, but our biggest get-together was at the Albuquerque Balloon Festival last year. We actually stayed on their property since they are Boondocker Welcome hosts. They seriously talked us into delaying our departure for home, and they won't admit it, but they are awesome hosts and tour guides.

Speaker 3

Peggy and Tony have a, have a wealth of information to share on their website and podcast each week to help make your next camping adventure stressless.

Tony

A while back, somebody, uh, this company Onais, O-N-N-A-I-S, sent us a keyless lock for our travel trailer, and if you don't know, it's very, very easy to replace... Is this upside down? No. To replace the door lock on an RV. It's just a few screws, and bing, bang, boom, you're done, son. Uh, so this company is Onais, O-N-N-A-I-S, and they, uh, looking at their website, they make a lot of stuff for guns, but-

Peggy

Huh

Tony

... yeah, like trigger locks and that sort of stuff. But they also make these keyless entry systems, and-

Peggy

And they are beefy.

Tony

This thing is beefy. I also like that it's got a 10-key numeric keypad. Uh, this thing also will work, well, you can just do it manually. There's a, a lock inside, too. You know, there's a knob inside. But it'll do with your phone. It'll do with the numbered keypad. It'll do-

Peggy

It'll do with a little remote control.

Tony

Yeah. Came with two remote controls.

Peggy

And these remote controls are like car key fobs. They actually have a physical key.

Tony

A mechanical key.

Peggy

I don't know where to put this so you can see it. It, uh, I- I mean, it's a key.

Tony

Yeah

Peggy

You don't need to see it, but it just slips right into this but- two buttons, lock and unlock on the remote.

Tony

Yeah, how simple is that?

Peggy

And this is also beefy.

Tony

Yeah, it, it's, it's a hefty piece. One of the things that was neat to me is this lock, well, it runs on four AA batteries, which, you know, you have to provide yourself. Oh, whoop-de-do. Um, but there is a port on the outside where you can stick a USB cable, and so if the bat, if your battery just dies, you can operate it on that, which is kind of a cool thing.

Peggy

Oh, so that you're not charging anything. You're just using it off of your USB-

Tony

Correct

Peggy

... attached to your battery pack of some sort.

Tony

So at least you have that. Yeah, like maybe even your phone.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

Another thing is it does have an app. I did not install it. I have enough apps on my phone now. But I, you know, it has an app. I'm happy just with typing in the number to get in. Nothing about this that I saw was second rate at all. It's a decent product. The, we do have another brand of lock on our trailer, and the number keypad has faded again.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

So, you know, I have high hopes for this. We shall see. But, uh, Onice? Onice. And so, so far, very pleased with this new keyless RV door lock. Oh, and if you have a motorized coach, you really should look into replacing your door latch, because we know of someone who got locked in-

Peggy

Yeah

Tony

... their RV because the mechanism broke.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

Locked in.

Peggy

Locked in. Well, and there was also someone who was locked out, and she thought she had left the keys inside, and we finally-

Tony

Yeah

Peggy

... we finally helped her get in through under the bed-

Tony

Yeah

Peggy

... through one door that happened to be unlocked. But then she also was locked in.

Tony

Yeah.

Peggy

Well-

Tony

So, sure

Peggy

... but it was the-

Tony

It was a Class C

Peggy

... Class C

Tony

So she could go in through the cab

Peggy

So she could've gotten through the cab doors. But she went to open the door for us so we could help her look for the keys, and she couldn't get out either.

Tony

Crazy stuff, yeah. So these, you know, I, it's, with as easy as it, as it is to replace the door lock mechanism on an RV, it's six screws. It, I literally could do it, like, we'll have a video and story linked in the show notes, and you'll see me install this thing. It's so easy. And you'll also see what an RV door is made out of, and you'll be like, "Oh, uh..." Oh, that reminds me. Typically, an RV door lock has, like, a little deadbolt.

Tony

It's a little square piece of metal.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

And then there's the latch, you know, the, the thing that sticks out. This, the latch is much bigger, and it's all deadbolt when it's dead bolted. So I would suspect this lock i- is more secure than most RV locks. But again, it's still a one-inch thick styrofoam door, so.

Peggy

So the part that, instead of having a separate deadbolt, the part that goes in and out when you turn the knob-

Tony

Yeah, locks

Peggy

... is the deadbolt.

Tony

Yeah.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

Seems pretty good.

Peggy

Yeah. I believe you also have an RV to share with us this week?

Tony

I do, I do. I saw the new Keystone Cougar 26LBW, which is really a couples camper. It's a pretty traditional floor plan. Uh, what I liked about this is it, when you walk in, it's got a dinette and it's got, uh, theater seats. And this floor plan used to not be that great b- from in the past. It's one that I haven't seen in a few years, and now it's back. But if you do wanna watch TV, there's, like, a wall that pops out.

Tony

Um, not pops out, there's a wall, and the theater seats are right across from that, which is where the TV is, and then they use that space on one side to make, like, an entry closet. On the other side, there's a closet in the bedroom with washer/dryer hookups.

Peggy

Ooh

Tony

Which is kinda cool. It's got an enormous kitchen counter. I really liked everything about the kitchen except the 17-inch oven.

Peggy

Wow.

Tony

RV companies, quit putting these stupid things in. My word, they're terrible. Speaking of terrible, there's two sewer dumps on this thing, and they're both under the trailer with the valves up, heading up and down.

Peggy

Huh?

Tony

Who is gonna crawl under the trailer at a dump station and pull that valve? It was literally the worst placement of a sewer valve I have ever seen.

Peggy

Ooh.

Tony

Now, this was a prototype, so maybe they may fix that.

Peggy

Hopefully.

Tony

I hope. Keystone is pretty good about details like that.

Peggy

This isn't really something you necessarily think to look for when you're shopping for an RV.

Tony

Well, that's why-

Peggy

Right?

Tony

... you go with our Honest RV Reviews.

Peggy

Right

Tony

'Cause I'll point this stuff out.

Peggy

Yeah.

Tony

Now, also worth pointing out, Keystone now has a plug that's provided by Hughes, the Power Watchdog, folks. It's not a surge suppressor. It is just a indicator, but when you plug your RV power in, it shows that all of the connections are good. And that's good, because there's a lot of failures that happen over the long term because you have lousy park power. Well, this will warn you.

Peggy

So it's something you put in line with your connection?

Tony

It's actually, the plug itself has lights on it.

Peggy

Oh, I see.

Tony

It's pretty neat.

Peggy

Okay.

Tony

Another thing I saw that's new for 2027, uh, Keystone has a manifold water system, so you can turn off individual fixtures from, w- where they put this one is in the front pass-through, which was huge on this trailer. Uh, another thing I liked was their way of implementing St- uh, Starlink functionality. Basically, there's just a hole in the floor of the, uh, cargo compartment with a screw-on cap, and you could just run your wires down, but you could also run, like, a power out, a power wire down.

Peggy

Oh.

Tony

So, and then there's a shelf inside. So it was really well made, and there's USB and household power, and so a lot to like, but the things I didn't like, I, I'm wondering if Keystone's gonna fix those on the production models.

Peggy

Yeah, I hope.

Tony

'Cause they tend to be pretty good at that. So you can watch the full video review in a link that we'll put somewhere in here. That must've been the link now-

Peggy

Ding

Tony

... showing up.

Peggy

Well, here we are, questions of the week.

Tony

Indeed.

Peggy

Last week, because we talked about small travel trailers, we asked if you would be comfortable in a small travel trailer, and a lot of you said yes. A lot of you, you know, said, "I'm comfortable in my van." I guess I asked RV, not trailer, maybe. I don't know what I asked, but thank you for answering anyway. Uh, some people just wanted to know what I meant by small trailer, because, you know, I still... Well, when we had the 2205, we called it a small trailer.

Peggy

Now he won't let me say small trailer anymore, but now we have a 2506.

Tony

It's, it's three tons. It's not a small trailer, our trailer now.

Peggy

But you were-

Tony

It's like 5,800 pounds dry

Peggy

... I was kind of referring to those little, tiny-

Tony

Yeah, like the tabs and-

Peggy

... the tear droppy things and stuff like we talked about in the podcast, but I don't know. Anyway, thank you for answering that question, those of you who did. This week, based on our topic, I have this question. Do you have a tip for planning a group trip?

Tony

You can answer that at our fun and friendly Stressless Campers Facebook group, or ask your own questions. We're, the folks there are pretty nice.

Peggy

Yeah, absolutely. Well, don't forget to like, share, and subscribe.

Tony

All that YouTube-ness.

Peggy

All that stuff. We thank you so much for being here for episode 370 of the Stressless Camping RV Podcast.

Tony

Remember our free once-a-week newsletter delivers deals, discounts, helpful tips, and more. Plus, you'll be able to follow our adventures if you wanna. And you can get that for free at stresslesscamping.com, where we never spam you or share your information with anybody or any of that, 'cause you know what that would not be? Stressless camping.

Peggy

Stressless camping.

Mark Ferrell

We hope you learned a lot and had some fun and got some tips for your next stress less camping adventure. We're honored by your reviews on Apple Podcasts, which helps others find us, too. Don't forget to subscribe so you won't miss out on the adventure, and we look forward to your joining us next week. Until then, happy camping.

Tony

All right, we did another podcast, Smoochy.

Peggy

We did a did.

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